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[psychomama]

i agree with this

 

[ungodly3333]

Magandang example na yung Ukraine-Russia war, dapat bumili na tayo ng mga DRONES

 

[FuriFuri]

I think we can learn lessons from Ukraine, pero it's comparing apples to oranges. Army and land based ang defenses ng Ukraine kasi maliit na part lang nila ang coastline, tapos halos closed pa ang waters ng Black Sea kaya hindi masyadong nagmamatter and navy. Literal na nagcross lang ng border ang Russia to get to Ukraine.
Meanwhile we are surrounded by waters and our primary antagonist has a large navy. They need to cross waters before getting to us. We need more hulls to project power and patrol our seas. Step in the right direction ang acquisition ng corvettes and frigates but due to budget restraints, hindi pa complete ang armaments nila (some have only guns, others already have anti-ship missiles).
An ocean going navy is a good deterrent and can both be used as air and surface defense. But of course it would only work as a part of a whole.

 

[pepeoneye]

I think we can learn lessons from Ukraine, pero it's comparing apples to oranges. Army and land based ang defenses ng Ukraine kasi maliit na part lang nila ang coastline, tapos halos closed pa ang waters ng Black Sea kaya hindi masyadong nagmamatter and navy. Literal na nagcross lang ng border ang Russia to get to Ukraine.
Meanwhile we are surrounded by waters and our primary antagonist has a large navy. They need to cross waters before getting to us. We need more hulls to project power and patrol our seas. Step in the right direction ang acquisition ng corvettes and frigates but due to budget restraints, hindi pa complete ang armaments nila (some have only guns, others already have anti-ship missiles).
An ocean going navy is a good deterrent and can both be used as air and surface defense. But of course it would only work as a part of a whole.

Hindi need ng Pilipinas ang barko para maprotektahan ang bansa, we are the iron curtain against China. China can't project its Navy kasi nga nasa first island chain tayo, and it fully encloses their shores along with Taiwan and Japan. It's just the same scenario with the Black Sea.

It's cheaper to buy and maintain land based Air Defense system and Anti ship missiles. The biggest threat China poses is its Long Range Missiles and its Submarines. I do think they need to buy Naval logistics instead of warships, kasi mas malaki ang capacity ng mga barko kesa sa mga eroplano natin. Also buying Multi Role Fighter aircraft is only good for COIN operations or internal defense not against fighting China.

 

[FuriFuri]

It's cheaper to buy and maintain land based Air Defense system and Anti ship missiles.

Yes they are cheaper but how can they protect against a blockade just outside their range? The PH, despite being an "agricultural country" imports a lot of grain and foodstuff. If the PLAN decides to blockade our ports just outside missile range, what do we do without ships or fighter bombers?

The biggest threat China poses is its Long Range Missiles and its Submarines.

If the biggest threat are long range missiles and submarines, what's the point of buying AShM?

Also buying Multi Role Fighter aircraft is only good for COIN operations or internal defense not against fighting China.

No that's not how an MRF works. An MRF is a fighter first, the other roles are secondary, but MRFs can carry AAMs, AGMs, AShMs, precision guided weapons, dumb bombs. They can intercept the enemy long before they can get within land based missile range.
Furthermore, we already have dedicated COIN planes -- the Super Tucanos. If MRFs are only for internal defense and COIN, why does PAF keep on insisting to buy MRFs?

All assets have a role in defense, we shouldn't just rely on shore and land based defenses. We need all of them working together as a cohesive group to defend the country.
The navy will be the first layer of defense, the air force second, and the army and their land based batteries should be the last.
This is like the survivability onion but on a national scale. If the enemies get close enough for us to use land based defenses, then that means the situation has gone to shit.

 

[badvillain]

I agree, we need to buy more drones hindi lang aerial pati narin ship drones for surveillance.

 

[DocOc]

Agree to this, mobility is the key on defending our nation. Heavy equipment such as MBTs, heavy IFVs etc are easy prey sa terrain natin, una hindi makaya ng mga bridges especially sa mga provinces at kung offroad nman lulubog sa putik at ang dali aambushin. Kailangan natin is light tanks and light IFVs, Wheeled SPGs with alot of airpower cause mas favorable dito satin ang mga light equipment for mobility.

 

[pablojobxd]

The Philippines is trying to procure so many things at once, when they should've focused on defensively. I think the Army should have been the biggest priority, giving them more SAMs and Manpads to deny the skies, more TOW and anti ship missiles and the most important of all, drones. The Naval upgrades and Airforce maybe necessary, but it is costly, and having seen the war in Ukraine which is mostly characterized by drones and Artillery duels says a lot.

Russia's Airforce is struggling to maintain air superiority because of Manpads, SPAAGs, and SAMs and its Navy having a no show and losing many ships. I do like to see Landing Platform Docks to give the military mobility in defending the islands, since it can carry more weight than a plane and the geography of the Philippines is in its advantage.

I think, the Philippines should focus on Drones, loitering munitions, Manpads and SAMs, Artillery and TOWs or ATGMs. I feel like they are more cost effective than buying a jet or a warship.

Indeed ph needs to modernize its navy too