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Question Did you know that the Philippines and Vatican City are the only countries in the world with no Divorce laws?

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Yes, its true. It's just us and a holy roman city with no divorce law.

I have seen how western couples (mostly men) are getting fucked over by divorce (losing custody, losing half of assets, paying alimony)

I have seen stories about individuals (mostly men) losing their homes, losing custody of their children, going to jail for being unable to pay alimony or child support (despite losing their jobs).
There is a lack of leniency for the ones (mostly men) having to pay the price of choosing a shitty partner. The ones who are unfaithful and disloyal (usually women) are the ones enjoying the benefits of divorcing their partners
Then there are serial divorcees that treat marriage as the next paycheck which is disgusting.

The ones who lose in the divorce is usually the one that makes the most money

It genuinely scares me to get married since the divorce law here is getting attention now. Some politicians are pushing for this law to be passed

I mean I see the argument about protecting a person from domestic violence. It's a good reason I believe. There is a way out for them and an added punishment for the abuser (aside from the Violence Against Women and Children Act and other laws that I don't know about) but its difficult to decipher whether a partner has been abused or not (since there are people that fake that shit and the laws of this country are not enforced properly)

It makes vows in marriage "a bunch of words" said in a ceremony and it somewhat loses its meaning.

Seeing how it has affected people in the west (since trends in the west eventually catch up to us Pinoys) I am now leaning towards staying single until I die.
I find marriage to be a burden now. I would rather date a lot of people rather than getting the government involved in the relationship (marriage)

Since we follow western trends, we might actually see a decrease in birth rates in the next few decades or so since people are discouraged to get married now because the person who earns more loses in divorce (usually).

I guess I am too young to be thinking about decisions like this but the thought that my future partner (if ever I get one) can just divorce me for stupid reasons (False accusations of physical and emotional abuse, false accusations of marital rape, falling out of love, being unfaithful, me losing my job, polygamy etc)

It makes me physically vomit (yes this makes me vomit more than the disturbing movie iceberg I posted in the adult section). I might need to seek medical attention because I vomit a lot hahaha

But that's just me. What do you people think? I'm sure there are EXPATS here that have been divorced and you can share your thoughts on this.
I would love also that women share their thoughts on this since divorce affects two people (in a way) and its mostly women who are pushing for this.

I would like to remind everyone to respect everyone's opinions and we are free to say what we want but not force people to change their minds.

Yun lang. Thanks hehe
Kung ung botante ng Pinas eh d kumakayod araw2 para sa buhay nila eh pwede sanang may paki sa pamamahala ng gobyerno. Eh hinde eh, it's an endless cycle at alam un ng gobyerno.
 
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Medyo skewed ata yung perspective. Compare mo yung statistics of men na screwed over sa divorce vs yung women abused in marriages. All contracts can become null and void given the right circumstances. After all, ang issue ng divorce (and marriage) ay legal. Ceremony nalang yang church marriage
 
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Welp, ganun ka devoted yung mga pari dito unlike sa ibang country with divorce na kung anong gusto mong gawin sige.
 
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Yes, its true. It's just us and a holy roman city with no divorce law.

I have seen how western couples (mostly men) are getting fucked over by divorce (losing custody, losing half of assets, paying alimony)

I have seen stories about individuals (mostly men) losing their homes, losing custody of their children, going to jail for being unable to pay alimony or child support (despite losing their jobs).
There is a lack of leniency for the ones (mostly men) having to pay the price of choosing a shitty partner. The ones who are unfaithful and disloyal (usually women) are the ones enjoying the benefits of divorcing their partners
Then there are serial divorcees that treat marriage as the next paycheck which is disgusting.

The ones who lose in the divorce is usually the one that makes the most money

It genuinely scares me to get married since the divorce law here is getting attention now. Some politicians are pushing for this law to be passed

I mean I see the argument about protecting a person from domestic violence. It's a good reason I believe. There is a way out for them and an added punishment for the abuser (aside from the Violence Against Women and Children Act and other laws that I don't know about) but its difficult to decipher whether a partner has been abused or not (since there are people that fake that shit and the laws of this country are not enforced properly)

It makes vows in marriage "a bunch of words" said in a ceremony and it somewhat loses its meaning.

Seeing how it has affected people in the west (since trends in the west eventually catch up to us Pinoys) I am now leaning towards staying single until I die.
I find marriage to be a burden now. I would rather date a lot of people rather than getting the government involved in the relationship (marriage)

Since we follow western trends, we might actually see a decrease in birth rates in the next few decades or so since people are discouraged to get married now because the person who earns more loses in divorce (usually).

I guess I am too young to be thinking about decisions like this but the thought that my future partner (if ever I get one) can just divorce me for stupid reasons (False accusations of physical and emotional abuse, false accusations of marital rape, falling out of love, being unfaithful, me losing my job, polygamy etc)

It makes me physically vomit (yes this makes me vomit more than the disturbing movie iceberg I posted in the adult section). I might need to seek medical attention because I vomit a lot hahaha

But that's just me. What do you people think? I'm sure there are EXPATS here that have been divorced and you can share your thoughts on this.
I would love also that women share their thoughts on this since divorce affects two people (in a way) and its mostly women who are pushing for this.

I would like to remind everyone to respect everyone's opinions and we are free to say what we want but not force people to change their minds.

Yun lang. Thanks hehe
Totoo naman na some guys are unlucky na mas matindi ang bearing the burden of a post-divorce life. But then you have to consider na divorce is a sum of the choices both parties make, regardless kung sino at fault. Sadly may mga ganung tao na regardless kung lalaki o babae ay tingin nila sa divorce ay cash cow.


The question is, alam ba natin yung context kung bakit ganun ang ending? Di tayo siguro kung di naman natin alam yung buong kwento. Again, hindi ibig sabihin na laging lalaki ang bagsak ng bad end ng divorce, pero most of the ones na narereport publicly ay usually men ang laging nadadali sa bad end ng divorce, pero bihira lang ka makakita ng babae na mas natamaan sa end ng divorce, regardless of reason.

I don't think kailangan natin i-conform ang standards ng western culture regarding divorce. If you look at Asian countries, most of the divorces that happen ay resulta ng disagreements between the couple over kung sino dapat gumawa netong trabaho xyz, sino dapat lilinis ng bahay, sino magluluto, sino titingin lagi sa bata, etc. minsan wala talagang kwenta relasyon nila pagkakasal so nag-agree sila na mag-divorce para parehas silang magkaron ng fresh start. Pero ang mga peaceful na divorce ay hindi binabalita kasi, both sides ay nagbenefit at parehas silang namalasan equally.

So does that make your decision invalid? No, absolutely not, nor should you change your opinion if yan ang magbibigay sayo ng peace of mind. But then you should definitely try to at least reflect on how others would feel, lalo na sa mga kapatid nating kasal na at ayaw na sa kasal na yun dahil either mali ang trato nila o nawala na ng gana mahalin pa yung taong akala nila pang-habangbuhay sila makukuntento.


Don't blame the women for pushing divorce here. Ask a lot of people whose parents ay magkahiwalay na dahil either one of them is abusive at di magka-sundo sa role nila bilang mag-asawa. Ayaw lang talaga ng mga babae generally na makulong sa isang kasal na akala nila maganda ang ending pero sa katotohanan ay na-taken for granted. Then kapag naghiwalay bigla magiiyak bata ang lalaki. Ang kuwestuyin mo ay yung safeguards na siguradong peaceful ang ending for both parties once officially hiwalay na sila. Ang mahalaga sa pagiwas ng magka-divorce is parehas parin kaso committed sa isa't isa equally but at the same time na-eenjoy niyo pareho yung sarili niyong freedom individually.

If you're fine with being single for the rest of your life, then I support your independence. Though you should definitely support others, regardless if lalaki sila or babae na ma-push yung divorce dito kasi, it will make a whole load of difference sa buhay nila na makakalaya na sila sa toxic na kasal, lalo na yung nag-effort na ayusin pero hindi talaga gumagana.

Ayun, hopefully may insight ka sa sinabi ko and don't feel guilty na mas prefer mo maging single if mapasa ang divorce dito, at least mabibigyan mo ng chance na alagaan ang sarili at maging mas independent ka kumpara sa mag-asawa na mataas ang codependency.
 
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Yes, its true. It's just us and a holy roman city with no divorce law.

I have seen how western couples (mostly men) are getting fucked over by divorce (losing custody, losing half of assets, paying alimony)

I have seen stories about individuals (mostly men) losing their homes, losing custody of their children, going to jail for being unable to pay alimony or child support (despite losing their jobs).
There is a lack of leniency for the ones (mostly men) having to pay the price of choosing a shitty partner. The ones who are unfaithful and disloyal (usually women) are the ones enjoying the benefits of divorcing their partners
Then there are serial divorcees that treat marriage as the next paycheck which is disgusting.

The ones who lose in the divorce is usually the one that makes the most money

It genuinely scares me to get married since the divorce law here is getting attention now. Some politicians are pushing for this law to be passed

I mean I see the argument about protecting a person from domestic violence. It's a good reason I believe. There is a way out for them and an added punishment for the abuser (aside from the Violence Against Women and Children Act and other laws that I don't know about) but its difficult to decipher whether a partner has been abused or not (since there are people that fake that shit and the laws of this country are not enforced properly)

It makes vows in marriage "a bunch of words" said in a ceremony and it somewhat loses its meaning.

Seeing how it has affected people in the west (since trends in the west eventually catch up to us Pinoys) I am now leaning towards staying single until I die.
I find marriage to be a burden now. I would rather date a lot of people rather than getting the government involved in the relationship (marriage)

Since we follow western trends, we might actually see a decrease in birth rates in the next few decades or so since people are discouraged to get married now because the person who earns more loses in divorce (usually).

I guess I am too young to be thinking about decisions like this but the thought that my future partner (if ever I get one) can just divorce me for stupid reasons (False accusations of physical and emotional abuse, false accusations of marital rape, falling out of love, being unfaithful, me losing my job, polygamy etc)

It makes me physically vomit (yes this makes me vomit more than the disturbing movie iceberg I posted in the adult section). I might need to seek medical attention because I vomit a lot hahaha

But that's just me. What do you people think? I'm sure there are EXPATS here that have been divorced and you can share your thoughts on this.
I would love also that women share their thoughts on this since divorce affects two people (in a way) and its mostly women who are pushing for this.

I would like to remind everyone to respect everyone's opinions and we are free to say what we want but not force people to change their minds.

Yun lang. Thanks hehe
Kaya dapat need na magadjust ng Pinas, sumabay na sa uso. Di na tayo under ng mga kastila
 
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